Original List Prices of IBM (and some Lenovo) era ThinkPads

[edik]

This has always intrigued me... looking back, tried to build a database from web IBM List prices and old IBM PDF's with list prices.
Also include lowest street prices from Magazines at the time if can find.

Model intro dates I think are accurate within 3-6 months in most cases (so very occasionally may be shown in the year above its launch, never behind) - will use the pdf refs to get accurate dating later

Prices may vary according to config - but tried to find the average spec. price for those without any details.

1992 April/July (Arguable ThinkPad)
2521 Tablet TBD special bid - renamed to 700T October 1992

1992 Monday 5th Oct (IBM launches the ThinkPad range)
300 $2,335 Zenith built
700 $2,750 w/ 80MB HD $2,950 w/ 120MB HD
700C $4,350 - $4,825 w/ 120MB HD
700T Tablet TBD formerly the 2521 special bid

1993
PC110 TBD Japanese Market Only
220 TBD Asian Market

350 $1,899 (PC Mag 31 May 1994 ibm list pricing) no 1993 pricing yet
350C $2,499 PC Mag 21 Dec 1993 (ibm list) 31 May 1994 list $2,699 (increased from previous!)
710T Tablet $3,599 PC Mag 29 Jun 1993 (ibm list)
720 TBD 4 May 93 launch
720C $4,695 PC Mag Jul 1993 (ibm list) 4 May 93 launch
750C $4,699 PC Mag 21 Dec 1993 (ibm list) First ThinkPad in space

1994 486
500 $1,699 IBM PC Direct (PC Mag 31 May 1994), $999 08/24/94
755C (486 version) TBD
755CD (486 version) $7,599 Oct '94 (486DX4-100/8MB/540MB/10.4 Active TFT) ibm pc direct 2/95 MKI=486 First CD-ROM Laptop model in the World!

1995 Moving from the 486 to the Pentium 75/90
701cs $3,149-$3,449 street PC Mag 7 Nov 1995, discounted base model $2,199 PC Mag 5 Dec 1995 butterfly
701c $3,699-$3,999 street PC Mag 7 Nov 1995, discounted base model $3,199.96 PC Mag 5 Dec 1995 butterfly

755C (P75 version) TBD upgrade to P75 Sep '95
755CS TBD
755CSE $4,899 ibm pc direct 2/95 street $3,499-$4,299 PC Mag 7 Nov 1995
755CE $6,249 ibm pc direct 2/95 street $4,299-$5,099 PC Mag 7 Nov 1995
755CD (P75 version) TBD upgrade to P75 Sep '95
755CDV $5,849 - $6,349 street PC Mag 7 Nov 1995, 960,000 yen --> $8592 (JP, list, $ equivalent)
755CX $5,699 to $6,399 09/05/95 List, $4,849 - $5,249 street PC Mag 7 Nov 1995 P75 - first 'pure' Pentium model?

760C $5,349 - $6,599 street PC Mag 5 Dec 1995 P90 first 12.1"
760CD $7,948 list ibm Nov 1995 (P90/16MB/1.2GB/SVGA Active 12.1") street $7,449.00 PC Mag 5 Dec 1995 P90

800 series PowerPC TBD 830 est $6,000

1996 Faster Pentiums (options beyond P90)
365 variants (E/ED/X/XD) $1,999 - $3,899 street
560 $2,699 - $4,309 street
760 variants (EL/ELD/E) $3,399 - $6,999 (760E 133/16MB/1.3GB/12.1" Active) First XGA


1997 Pentium moving to Pentium MMX
380D $4,120 (street pcmag.com early 97) $1,349 (street pcmag.com 4/98) $2,799 high end (street pcmag.com 11/4/97)
380ED $2659, $1,395 street pcmag.com 4/98
560E $4,800 (street pcmag.com early 97) $2,849 - $3,429 (street pcmag.com 4/98) $1,699 base (street pcmag.com 11/4/97) - high variance in pricing!
760XL $3,769 street pcmag.com 11/97 166MMX, cut down 760XD, no DSP, SVGA 12.1
760XD $6,500 list, $4,679 - $4,799 (street pcmag.com 11/4/97) 166MMX, DSP, XGA 12.1
765D $6,500 (street! pcmag.com early 97) street $1,999 PC Mag 1 Sep 1998 (-60%) XGA 13.3 first model beyond 12.1"
765L $5459.16 - $6,779.05 street 11/4/97 pcmag.com (765D without cd/modem) street $1,899 PC Mag 1 Sep 1998 (-60%) XGA 13.3
770 (233MMX/32MB/5.1GB/14"XGA) $6,999 (street pcmag.com 11/4/97) $3597 - $4,949 (street pcmag.com 4/98) first DVD-ROM model, first 14" model By late 2002 this was $300 used!

1998 Last of the Pentiums, first of the PII's
600 $3,795 street PC Mag 1 Sep 1998
770ED $5,800 street May 1998 First PII

1999 PII/PIII
240 $2,000 street PC Mag Aug 1999
600E $2,999 starting list (Jan 99) - $4,500

770X $4,659 street PC Mag 23 Feb 1999 13.7" LCD optionally with 1280x1024, first TP past XGA
770Z $4,799 starting list (Jan 99) First PIII(?)

2000 PIII
600X (500MHZ) $4,100
X20 $2199 - $3099 September 12 2000 ibm list
X21 $2199 to $2799 MSRP April 2 2000
T20 $3,699 Start of the long running T series
T21 $2,999 www pc.ibm.com (2/01)
A20p $4,090 list (SXGA+) First 15" TP, first TP with UXGA option(?), first "p" series
A21e $1,499 ibm.com/smallbusiness
A21m TBD
A21p TBD


2001 PIII and the low power PIII-M Tualatin
T22 $3,569 ibm.com/smallbusiness ($2599 to $4199 MSRP Mar 28 2001)
T23 $3,149 (without internal wifi card) +$200 with card to $3,749 (SXGA+) ibm.com/shop PIII-M Tualatin First with Internal Wifi Card and Mobile CPU (PIII-M Tualatin)
A22m $1849 to $3169 MSRP Apr 13 01
A22p $3899 to $4169 MSRP Apr 13 01
A30p $2,887 (list @10/2002) launch Dec 01?


2002 PIII-M/P4-M
A31p $3,949 list
T30 $2,199 - $3,499 (SXGA+) list
X23 TBD PIII-M Tualatin
X24 £1,824 (ex. VAT) UK List 6/02 PIII-M Tualatin
X30 £1,780 (UK) $1,999 - $3.047 list (US) PIII-M Tualatin
R30 TBD Acer manufactured

2003 Centrino/P-M introduction

T40 $1,549 (XGA) - $2,799 (SXGA+) ibm.com/shop
T40p $3,529 (SXGA+) ibm.com/shop
T41 $1,679 - $1,939 ibm.com/shop Dec 03 (by early 2005 XGA were $1,000 for base model through the IBM web site discounted)
T41p £2,930 (UK List) Dec 03

R40 $1,249 List (CNET 01/03) Acer manufactured
R40 $1,199 (XGA) - $1,849 (SXGA+) ibm.com/shop
R50 $1,599 - $1,769 list 12/03
R50p TBD - $3,000? Usually UXGA, but special order QXGA available
X31 $1,499 - $1,699 - $1,949 ibm.com/shop
G40 $1,299 - $1,399 ibm.com/shop


2004 Centrino/P-M
T42 $1,499 - $1,649 ibm.com/shop, by 2005 on sale by IBM directly for $1000 in base config
T42p TBD
X32 $1299 (@2005) tweaked X31
X40 $1,499 - $1,799 ibm.com/shop
R51 $1,299 - $1,499 ibm.com/shop

2005 (Last "true" IBM for purists) Centrino/P-M
R52 $1,749 list
T43 (14" base) $1,999.00/$2,049 ibm list
T43p 512 60/7200 15" Flexview SXGA+ $2,749 ibm list
T43p 1G 60/7200 15" FlexView UXGA $3,949 ibm list The highest spec pure IBM machine, although R50p has some claim as well

2006 (Lenovo but IBM designed) Dual Core..
T60 WXGA $2,749 at intro (Feb 2006), WXGA $1,299 - $1,649 (early 2007)
T60p SXGA+ $2,099 (early 2007)
X60(s) $1899 MSRP (X60)
Z60 TBD First Lenovo Widescreen

2007 (Lenovo) Dual Core..
T61 $2510.00 MSRP 05/07
T61p $2,275 standard/$1,814 starting Aug 07 cnet.com
X61(s) $2033 ($1863 without UltraBase and Optical Drive) MSRP Jun 07

2008 (Lenovo) Dual Core (C2D/C2Q)
X300 $2476
X301 $2605
X200 $1434
T400(s) TBD
T500 $1693.00 - 15.4" - Core 2 Duo T9400 - 2 GB RAM - 160 GB HDD
W500 TBD
W700 TBD
W700ds TBD

2010 (Lenovo)
W701ds Year? TBD

2010 (Lenovo) First generation Core
T410(s) TBD
T510 $2028.00 - 15.6" Core i5 520M 2.4 Ghz - 3 GB RAM - 320 GB HHD
W510 TBD
X201 $1625


2011 (Lenovo)
X220 $797

2012 (Lenovo) Second/Third generation Core
T420(s) TBD
T520 $1879.00 - 15.6" - Core i7 2640M 2.8 Ghz - 8 GB RAM - 128 GB SSD
W520 TBD
T430(s) TBD
T530 TBD
W530 TBD
X230 $1249 (no "starting from" found)

2014 (Lenovo)
X240 $860

2014 (Lenovo) Fourth generation Core
T440(s) TBD
T440p TBD
T540 TBD
W540 TBD

2015 (Lenovo) Fifth generation Core
T450(s) TBD
T550 TBD
W550 TBD
X250 $755

2016 (Lenovo) Sixth generation Core
T460(s) TBD
T560 TBD
W560 TBD
X260 $764

2017 (Lenovo) Seventh generation Core
T470(s) TBD
T570 TBD
W570 TBD
X270 $783

[ajkula66]

Have nothing to add but... ...and I've got this thread bookmarked now...

[Thinkpad4by3]

https://www.inversenet.co.jp/pclist/pro ... 2DGFL.html
Thinkpad 755CDV: 960,000 yen --> $8592

[MikalE]

I thought CNET published list prices in their reviews. Still a lot of those floating around on the internet.

[edik]

Thinkpad4by3 Thanks for the addition, added!

MikalE, CNET do use when possible.. however old PDF scans of PC Mag have been extremely useful as IBM frequently used them to advertise direct to consumer! Also archive.org... before around 2001 not many net reviews as they were yet to come...

[MikalE]

Lenovo ThinkPad T500 - 15.4" - Core 2 Duo T9400 - 2 GB RAM - 160 GB HDD - $1693.00

Lenovo ThinkPad T510 - 15.6" Core i5 520M 2.4 Ghz - 3 GB RAM - 320 GB HHD - $2028.00

Lenovo ThinkPad T520 - 15.6" - Core i7 2640M 2.8 Ghz - 8 GB RAM - 128 GB SSD $1879.00

You can copy and paste that into your post if you like and I will delete this after you have done so.

[edik]

Thanks MikalE....

I started a Lenovo section now also )) Added the T500/T510/T520 !

[MikalE]

I can't delete the other post.

Wouldn't it be interesting to see the prices for an absolute bare-bones stripped model and the same model with every bell and whistle they offered?

[edik]

Yes.. but it gets complex ))

I thought we could just give a range $xxx - $xxx where we can put the config of the top-end model in initially (like the 760CS, 755CD etc), and then break it out a little?

Pricing varies hugely even within little time also... some of the "7" series almost halved in price before they were discontinued... probably many others.

It's a pity this can't be universally edited so people can just add as they feel...

[dr_st]

It's a pity this can't be universally edited so people can just add as they feel...

Put it on Google Docs, and then they can.

[edik]

Still working on initial version!

[edik]

Will prepare Google doc soon for uploading.

[Thinkpad4by3]

You can probably use the internet archive to find other prices on Lenovos site.

[edik]

Busy looking )))

It's quite interesting seeing the evolution as well, roughly knew it but this definitely puts it in perspective for me (and hopefully for some others).

Also interesting the huge price of some models.

[jaspen-meyer]

X20 - September 12 2000
$2199 - $3099
source: https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pres ... e/1559.wss

X21, A22m, A22p, T22
Pricing, Availability, Service and Support
ThinkPad A22m and A22p models will be generally available April 13. Prices range from $18496 to $3169 for the A22m, and $3899 to $4169 for the A22p. The ThinkPad T22 will be available March 28, with prices ranging from $2599 to $4199. The ThinkPad X21 will be available April 2, with prices ranging from $2199 to $2799. Worldwide availability varies by country. All models come preloaded with Microsoft® Windows® 98 or Windows 2000 Professional.
source: http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/press ... ss#release

x60 - CNET
says the MSRP is $1899
https://www.cnet.com/products/thinkpad-x60/review/

[edik]

Added - thanks!

[Thinkpad4by3]

Are you telling me that the 300 isn't a TP because it was made by Zenith?

Zenith made some of the most quality laptops of all time, definitely onpar with IBM's standard. I give it my own Thinkpad badge of approval if I had such a thing.

[edik]

Well I put in list...

Wasn't sure as it wasn't IBM manufactured, but it did have the ThinkPad moniker so it must be a ThinkPad ))

Yes Zenith laptops were first rate!

I withdraw the comment though )))

[Thinkpad4by3]

Well I put in list...

Wasn't sure as it wasn't IBM manufactured, but it did have the ThinkPad moniker so it must be a ThinkPad ))

Yes Zenith laptops were first rate!

I withdraw the comment though )))

Thank you. "Not a Thinkpad" implies inferior hardware to me, even though it didn't in that scenario.

Now the iSeries machines were actually manufacutered by Acer. Those weren't on-par with IBM's standard but cheaper and had a trackpoint. Known for failing hinges, something REAL Thinkpads rarely have.

[RealBlackStuff]

The R30 and R40 Series were also manufactured by Acer.

[edik]

I have added everything to date, will go through the PSREF to make sure the dates are correct (at least to year of introduction initially).

Still a few machines to add from the old days, as well as breaking out the some of the models into individual versions, but on models till 2006 probably 80% or more complete.

Have learned much from this little exercise.

[edik]

Updated some later models. Will be away a few weeks on business and will come back from work stuff and restart this...

[Thinkpad4by3]

Updated some later models. Will be away a few weeks on business and will come back from work stuff and restart this...

Inaccuracy!! The T61 wasn't the first one with widescreen LCD. The Z60 series of machines had widescreen with P-M Banias chips.

[ajkula66]

Inaccuracy!! The T61 wasn't the first one with widescreen LCD. The Z60 series of machines had widescreen with P-M Banias chips.

Actually, these were 533Mhz Dothans as seen in R52 and T43/p...

[Thinkpad4by3]

Inaccuracy!! The T61 wasn't the first one with widescreen LCD. The Z60 series of machines had widescreen with P-M Banias chips.

Actually, these were 533Mhz Dothans as seen in R52 and T43/p...

Ahhhh..darn it. I messed up Banias and Dothan again.

[edik]

modified

[zerotetration]

https://www.inversenet.co.jp/pclist/pro ... 2DGFL.html
Thinkpad 755CDV: 960,000 yen --> $8592

Holy crow!

[RealBlackStuff]

I'm missing a few:
(prices quoted are the "starting from" that I was able to find
X300 2008 $2476
X301 2008 $2605
X200 2008 $1434
X201 2010 $1625
X220 2011 $797
X230 2012 $1249 (no "starting from" found)
X240 2013 $860
X250 2015 $755
X260 2016 $764
X270 2017 $783

[aptivaboy]

FWIW, my I-Series 2176-1450 was about 2K back in the day new. I believe I got it as a slight discount under that from CDW. I still miss that old machine...

[edik]

Added, thanks RealBlackStuff!

Also will try and add the other stuff guys.